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As one of those libertarian-ish independents that find both parties to be a mixed bag that swung to the Dems for the usual reasons, some questions:

1) I see a lot of fretting from the GOP that this is a permanent or at least very sticky shift, largely due to perceived demographic shifts (and immigration/election-stealing BS). My response is that the "between the 40 yard lines" middle and independents could very well swing the other way in two years. Setting aside the usual inertia of the Senate due to its 6-year terms, how likely is this?

I know my vote will be in play. What about others?

2) The GOP pretty much recovered from Watergate in 6 years. Of course, Jimmy Carter was not that strong of a candidate heading into 1980, and they ripped the Nixon Band-Aid off pretty quickly with is resignation and Ford taking the hit for his pardon. What would the expected recovery time of the GOP? Does the clock start now or when Trump leaves office (however that happens)?

I certainly hope the GOP learns its lessons from its time with Trump; I don't see any other choice for the GOP, and I would expect them to remain in the wilderness until they do so.

3) Are there any issues coming to the fore that could permanently weld younger voters (Millennials and younger) to the Dems, much as how the Greatest Generation became loyal Dems, not to mention the 1950-1953 Boomer cohort because of Vietnam/draft/Nixon? Strauss and Howe would say that the Millennials would go as the Greatest Generation did, while GenZ would start out liberal and trend hard conservative as they aged as the Silent Generation did.

4) What does the potential leadership of a post-MAGA GOP look like? Kemp and Youngkin are obvious candidates, with DeSantis, Rubio, and Haley also possible depending on how much daylight they can put between themselves and Trump. I could see Vance becoming persona non grata very quickly; indeed, that might be the only thing stopping a bipartisan impeachment, unless something really weird happens and Vance gets impeached too, and Hakeem Jeffries or his replacement becomes president. The GOP might be willing to accept that if they want to hit fast-forward through the bad parts.

I don't necessarily want the GOP to regain power, but I do want it to be at least viable enough to serve as a check on any excesses from the Dems.

I know it may be horribly premature to ask any of this; however, for its sake I hope the GOP is already thinking about all of this.

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Independent here, no lean, used to be far-Left Liberal type...somehow this election leaves me rather distressed and worried. I get that everyone voted AGAINST the Trump administration policies, which is roundly deserved, and not especially FOR Democrat policies. And yet...the Dems have not changed at all, everything independents (and others) dislike about therm is still in play. After this election, Dems are already tripling down on their insane policies, plus we now have the further craziness of the DSA and these Muslim politicians to deal with.

This bothers me. Hard to believe voters in these numbers support the kind of things Democrats are pushing. If not, then we'd better pull ourselves together and let them know that they are no more acceptable to the general public than the Trump administration is. Something is really going wrong here, and this election has only highlighted it for me, not made me feel like a decent change is in the wind.

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